My Dear Friend, This is to advise you that one Bob W. The information we received from our intercourse with psychotherapy was mostly a broader and more complete understanding of the nature of men and women and how they differ sexually, intellectually, and behaviorally. We have a friend who says that all emotional baggage must fit under the seat. They will be contributing members of society, not expecting breaks or pity, just doing their work gratefully and willingly helping others. We have a very healthy relationship and put our programs, spirituality first, and have some amazing conversations on topics pertaining to 'recovery' it has been more helpful than anything, so I believe there is a time and place but the people themselves are the overwhelming factors of course. We believed in quid pro quo as a way of life. We believe He realizes that to help us when we can help ourselves is to cripple us and to compromise his greatest of all gifts: free choice.
Try to remember that though God has wrought miracles among us, we should never belittle a good doctor or psychiatrist. They taught me how to live sober and be happy with what I have and for who I was. Unless we do something, nothing will change. It is nothing more than people with a certain illness using mutual support. I owe an explanation to no one but God. Most of what we will be sharing with you is based on our personal adventures, both before and since our marriage.
Some times I spend more then I should. The name alcoholism was not yet invented and the disease concept of alcoholism did not originate with Alcoholics Anonymous. Neither of us can meet all of the needs of the other. Many of us think the trick is to find the right person. This is my spiritual practice. Excuse you, I am schizophrenic and I live by these principles daily, sponsor people, and am actively involved in service.
When each partner of the relationship understands that they are responsible for their own survival and progress, a greater spiritual strength flows into each and the relationship is made doubly strong. They work the steps, sponsor and fit it all in. That is what she does - that is Polly. One of the greatest verities for us is that abstinence alone is not enough to keep us clean. Roland Hazard and Ebby Thatcher were members and it was essentially the Oxford Group credo that both credited for their sobriety. Are you a member of a 12th Step Program or simply a Therapist who observes from the outside. It is our belief that when someone is asked point blank what he stands for, that person should be able to tell him.
One of my favorite recovery speakers is Scott R. If sex is more important to you than learning how to get and stay clean, perhaps your priorities are not in order. His shares were eloquent and he had an easy serenity. Read your reply, your comment, and when you read it, imagine it written in crayon by a three year old…that is the level of intelligence your reply contains. When a person allows themselves to be in the role of victim over and over, the vast majority of the time they are unaware of what they are doing wrong.
I do not consider my self an alcoholic anymore because the defect has been removed! Some people have addictive personalities. You are like the special case we see on the news of a woman who has left her family, and everything she knows, just to folllow a new cult leader claiming to be the next Messiah. Neither of us is a reflection of the other. She taps furiously before meetings and during the break to appear busy and avoid making direct eye contact or meeting new people. An individual allowing themselves to be victimized is their responsibility to change on their own, but lack of attention to the abuse itself is why some people loose the opportunity to recover from it, because the reality their life might be way more damaged than they were aware of, is a fact that people understand only through pain and suffering.
I am very successful in many ways, family, friends and money. Unencumbered by conviction, I bring an attitude of maybe to all my understanding, turning towards all arising phenomena, not away from. We offer what we intend to be a fairly strong position statement: We have an unwavering belief that any successful ongoing relationship or individual life for that matter must have an underlying set of values or principles by which it is conducted. To respond to both doubt and certainty with curiosity and investigation. They characterize what we believe is fair and just. I have put my will and my life in God's hands.
A lot of truth to this but lacks a description of members who really do practice this program and that it shows by the way the handle life and it ups and downs. T o us, this means that each of us must be responsible for himself. The when, where, what, how, and why of that belief, based on our own actual experience, is what this workshop is all about. The whole point of my recovery is to be the best person I can be. Our need for spiritual integrity will always be great.
So, rebute me as you will and as you have been thru the whole thread , but know that I claim zero pride in what I have to say. I truly believe that most people at these meetings are struggling to come to grips with so many issues that their heads are literally spinning. How can we stay united and focused? This is the way the ancestors told us we need to be. She did not say what will I do. We are talking about what one does, and more specifically, what one does when he is alone and nobody is watching or will ever find out. After all, the next time the roles will be reversed and it will be the others turn to be a jerk.
If it is still alive after a year, then get a pet and look after it, feed it, nurture it and love it. In my mind there is no right or wrong way to this. Must happily accept constructive criticism regarding dress, personal habits, vocabulary, hygiene, driving, language, housekeeping, laundry methods, cooking, and clothes folding. Each of us have our own different paths which have lead to various stages of our recovery. A dear friend just announced his 29 years in days. You may say that doing so makes you feel better. Your first should have been to the point— as in, 13 Stepping is sexual harassment.